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Subject: [M]: Re: RE: Re: [M] LX200 align/slew
From: Roy Gillard
Reply To: mapug@shore.net
Date: Sat Jun 02 12:26:04 2001

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Kristofer,
Looking at your original post, I would say that since you are not trackin=
g the moon or stars, your LX200 is in Land mode. You need to change the =
mode to either Altaz or Polar. You mention having a wedge. If this is t=
he case then use Polar mode. You should have no problem following these =
objects, I know I don't. I can come down from the tower, walk to the hous=
e to get something and come back ten minutes later and it's still in the =
ep. For Michael's later post, he says that there may seem to not be any =
real need to set the time/date and location for setup. However, the moon=
and planets' positions are calculated by the LX200 software. So it need=
s to have the time/date and location to compute these. The moon, sun, an=
d planets are not held in a constant position on the celestial sphere. J=
ust my opinion. ;o)) Good Skies!
Roy

----- Original Message -----
From: LaGuardia, Kristofer S.
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:38 PM
Subject: [M]: RE: Re: [M] LX200 align/slew

Thank you for the information, and recommendations! Hmm...now I wonder w=
hat site and book you would be referring to? ;) Hehe
-----Original Message----- =20
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:41 AM =20
Subject: [M]: Re: [M] LX200 align/slew =20


> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:08:40 -0600 =20
> Subject: [M]: LX200 align/slew =20
> =20
> Last night I did a 1-star alt-az alignment with Vega. My base was =20
level...I =20
> had used my reticule eyepiece to center the star. I slewed to some sta=
rs =20
> and was off some...not sure how much since I'm still new to this... =20
1-star alignment is inherently inaccurate and very much at the mercy of =20
leveling and site data. Do a 2-star alignment and you'll be pleasantly =20
surprised. In my opinion, it was a mistake for them to even offer 1-star=
=20
alignment -- it is a flawed concept. Two stars are necessary (and =20
sufficient) to determine the position of the celestial sphere. =20
> 1) In AltAz mode, does the LX200 track...or automatically slew the scop=
e =20
to =20
> keep up with the object being viewed? =20
Yes, automatically. This is activated as soon as you do your alignment o=
n 1 =20
or 2 stars. =20
> 2) If it does do that, then why use the wedge(I have the Meade =20
Superwedge)? =20
To avoid field rotation in long-exposure photographs; also to get somewha=
t =20
smoother tracking and use periodic error correction (significant for =20
photography, not for visual use). In alt-azimuth mode, the image twists =20
gradually as it tracks because the telescope isn't rotating around the sa=
me =20
axis as the Earth. =20
The other reason to use the wedge is if you are measuring double stars or=
=20
something and need your four slewing directions to be exactly north, sout=
h, =20
east, and west regardless of position in the sky. =20
> i guess I'm getting tired of having to follow the moon with the =20
keypad...and =20
> the stars...or finding a binary pair and running in to get the wife out=
=20
only =20
> to have to find it again. =20
Tracking the Moon is inherently complicated because there's parallax as w=
ell =20
as orbital motion. Few if any telescopes track it perfectly. =20
> Plus, I'm getting pretty confident with my camera =20
> enough to want to take photos ... =20
Let me suggest a book and a web site :) =20
Clear skies, =20
Michael Covington =20
Author, Astrophotography for the Amateur =20
(Now working on a book on computerized telescopes) =20
http://www.CovingtonInnovations.com/astro <>< =20
[Astronomy correspondents: Please do not send pictures or =20
file attachments unless requested. They will not reach me. ] =20

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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Kristofer,</DI=
V> <DIV>Looking at your original post, I would say that since you are not=
tracking the moon or stars, your LX200 is in Land mode.&nbsp; You need t=
o change the mode to either Altaz or Polar.&nbsp; You mention having a we=
dge.&nbsp; If this is the case then use Polar mode.&nbsp; You should have=
no problem following these objects, I know I don't.&nbsp;I can come down=
from the tower, walk to the house to get something and come back ten min=
utes later and it's still in the ep.&nbsp; For Michael's later post, he s=
ays that there may seem to not be any real need to set the time/date and =
location for setup.&nbsp; However, the moon and planets' positions are ca=
lculated by the LX200 software.&nbsp; So it needs to have the time/date a=
nd location to compute these.&nbsp; The moon, sun, and planets are not he=
ld in a constant position on the celestial sphere.&nbsp; Just my opinion.=
;o))&nbsp; Good Skies!</DIV> <DIV>Roy</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOT=
E style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT=
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rial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e=
4; COLOR: black; FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>From:</B> LaGuardia, Kristofer S.</=
DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 01, 2001 1=
</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> [M]: RE: Re: [M] L=
X200 align/slew</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD=
HTML 3.2//EN"> <META content=3D"MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12" =
name=3DGenerator> <P><FONT size=3D2>Thank you for the information, and re=
commendations!&nbsp; Hmm...now I wonder what site and&nbsp; book you woul=
d be referring to? ;)&nbsp; Hehe</FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3D2>-----Origin=
al Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>From: Michael A. Covington [<A =
Innovations.com</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Friday, June 01, 200=
<BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject: [M]: Re: [M] LX200 align/slew</FONT> </P><BR>=
<P><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:08:40 -0600</FONT> <BR><=
c.com&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Subject: [M]: LX200 align/slew</=
FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Last night I=
did a 1-star alt-az alignment with Vega.&nbsp; My base was</FONT> <BR><F=
ONT size=3D2>level...I</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; had used my reticul=
e eyepiece to center the star.&nbsp; I slewed to some stars</FONT> <BR><F=
ONT size=3D2>&gt; and was off some...not sure how much since I'm still ne=
w to this...</FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3D2>1-star alignment is inherently=
inaccurate and very much at the mercy of</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>level=
ing and site data.&nbsp; Do a 2-star alignment and you'll be pleasantly</=
FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>surprised.&nbsp; In my opinion, it was a mistake=
for them to even offer 1-star</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>alignment -- it =
is a flawed concept.&nbsp; Two stars are necessary (and</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>sufficient) to determine the position of the celestial sphere.</=
FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3D2>&gt; 1) In AltAz mode, does the LX200 track.=
..or automatically slew the scope</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>to</FONT> <BR=
><FONT size=3D2>&gt; keep up with the object being viewed?</FONT> </P> <P=
><FONT size=3D2>Yes, automatically.&nbsp; This is activated as soon as yo=
u do your alignment on 1</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>or 2 stars.</FONT> </P=
> <P><FONT size=3D2>&gt; 2) If it does do that, then why use the wedge(I =
have the Meade</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Superwedge)?</FONT> </P> <P><FON=
T size=3D2>To avoid field rotation in long-exposure photographs; also to =
get somewhat</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>smoother tracking and use periodic=
error correction (significant for</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>photography,=
not for visual use).&nbsp; In alt-azimuth mode, the image twists</FONT> =
<BR><FONT size=3D2>gradually as it tracks because the telescope isn't rot=
ating around the same</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>axis as the Earth.</FONT>=
</P> <P><FONT size=3D2>The other reason to use the wedge is if you are m=
easuring double stars or</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>something and need you=
r four slewing directions to be exactly north, south,</FONT> <BR><FONT si=
ze=3D2>east, and west regardless of position in the sky.</FONT> </P> <P><=
FONT size=3D2>&gt; i guess I'm getting tired of having to follow the moon=
with the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>keypad...and</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D=
2>&gt; the stars...or finding a binary pair and running in to get the wif=
e out</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>only</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; to ha=
ve to find it again.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3D2>Tracking the Moon is i=
nherently complicated because there's parallax as well</FONT> <BR><FONT s=
ize=3D2>as orbital motion.&nbsp; Few if any telescopes track it perfectly=
.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Plus, I'm getting pretty confident w=
ith my camera</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; enough to want to take photo=
s ...</FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3D2>Let me suggest a book and a web site =
:)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3D2>Clear skies,</FONT> </P> <P><FONT size=3D=
2>Michael Covington</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Author, Astrophotography fo=
r the Amateur</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>(Now working on a book on compute=
rized telescopes)</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2><A href=3D"http://www.covingt=
oninnovations.com/astro" target=3D_blank>http://www.CovingtonInnovations.=
com/astro</A> &lt;&gt;&lt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>[Astronomy correspon=
dents: Please do not send pictures or</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>file atta=
chments unless requested.&nbsp; They will not reach me. ]</FONT> </P><BR>=
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