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Subject: Update on ISP situation
From: Tim Long
Reply To: mapug@shore.net
Date: Wed Feb 23 03:31:33 2005

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN =
class=3D261080610-23022005>Regrettably, the minority=20
of subscribers currently affected by my ISPs inadequacies will not be =
receiving=20
this notice, so if you know someone who has posted a message similar to =
this or=20
that you know has not been receiving the messages, I would be grateful =
if you=20
could forward them this email to let them know what's going =
on.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN =
class=3D261080610-23022005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D261080610-23022005>As I =
previously=20
explained, due to a limitation of my current ISP, about 20% of the list =
members=20
are not receiving any mail from the list. I have selected a new ISP and =
am=20
already in the process of changing over. The new ISP has informed me =
that the=20
new contract will go live tomorrow, so with luck, all should be back to =
normal=20
by then. I hope so!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN =
class=3D261080610-23022005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D261080610-23022005>I'm really =
sorry for the=20
inconvenience of this. We spent several weeks beta testing this new list =
before=20
it went live without any problems. If you;re interested in the gory =
details, it=20
goes like this... When my email server suddenly went from sending a few =
dozen=20
emails per day to a few thousand, my email "smart host" that I was using =
to=20
relay much of my mail didn't like that and stopped accepting my outbound =
mail.=20
This meant that I have to relay mail directly and, because my server is =
on a=20
dynamic IP address, many domains summarily block mail from my server as=20
potential spam. Dynamic IP address =3D spam. Go figure. Anyhow, the new =
ISP will=20
be providing a static IP address which should enable me to avoid that =
problem in=20
the future.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN =
class=3D261080610-23022005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D261080610-23022005>BTW, if =
there are any=20
email admins reading this list, I hope this will highlight the futility =
of=20
blocking mail from dynamic IPs. At best it is a flawed philosophy and at =
worst=20
it is outright discrimination based on arbitrary criteria. You can't =
tell=20
anything about a mail server by the way its IP address is allocated. Any =

competent spammer will be able to get around that and many small =
businesses are=20
forced to use dynamic IP addresses these days by their ISPs. If I had to =
pay an=20
ISP to provide me with a "smart host" it would cost me over $1500 per =
year for=20
the volume of mail I need to send, which is unacceptable. Obviously, =
operating=20
an SMTP server in my domain&nbsp;will allow me to avoid that charge. =
ISPs know=20
that and that's why they encourage this pointless discrimination, so =
they can=20
continue to charge exorbitant fees for something that really ought to be =

included in the price. (in my humble opinion, of course).</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#008000>Tim =
Long</FONT></DIV>
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title=3Dhttp://syd.tigranetworks.co.uk/=20
href=3D"http://syd.tigranetworks.co.uk/">http://syd.tigranetworks.co.uk</=
A> -=20
software for amateur astronomers</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I seems to have been blocked from receiving messages from =
MAPUG-Astronomy=20
net. I have unsubscribed to the old Mapug, subscribed to =
mapug-astronomy.net=20
but I have not gotten a message in a week.</DIV>
<DIV>Would someone please help me?</DIV>
<DIV>I have turned all spam mail filters off and set my e-mail address =
to=20
"accept all mail". Still no messages.</DIV>
<DIV>Obviously, since I can;t seem to recieve messages from=20
mapug-astronomy.net, the only way to contact me would be though my =
regular=20
e-mail address,&nbsp; <A=20
<DIV>Thanks, any help would be appreciated.</DIV>
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href=3D"http://syd.tigranetworks.co.uk">Software-y-Ddraig</A></FONT><FONT=
face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>&nbsp;(<A =
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