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Subject: Re: [M]: Update on Pauls direct or indirect attack on Meade or its designs...9/5/97
From: maxx
Reply To: mapug@shore.net
Date: Sat Sep 06 00:01:10 1997

RA wrote:
>
> Since Yesterday, 71% or 5 our of 7 of Pauls comments on this newsgroup
> attack either indirectly or directly Meade products or its designs. Of
> the 137 responces which have been compiled from this group in the last
> few months, overall 87% of his responces are also against Meade in one
> maner or another. It may seem a bit odd of me to compile this information
> but honestly, I think his method to sway the astro readers against Meade
> may be the driving force in the hesitation some may have in buying Meade
> products. To believe someone who has admittedly Never owned a Meade
> Product and then allow him to casually knaw at their products in such a
> continous negative maner is beyond me why he is allowed to stay. Some of
> the comments below may require the whole contents to be read to see the
> full distructiveness of his intent:
>
> Subject:
> Re: [M]: Re: LXD500 info
> Date:
> Thu, 4 Sep 1997 20:40:06 -7
> From:
> "Paul Laughton" <meade@laughton.com>
> Reply-To:
> mapug@shore.net
> To:
> mapug@shore.net
>
> <snip>
> Since I have never used a GP or SP mount, I can not yet comment on
> how sturdy they are. In theory, the German Equitorial should be less
> prone to vibration than the fork. The reality depends upon the
> particular imlementations. If this system were for a Losmandy GM8, I
> would scream yes, it would be a wonderful replacement for the fork.
>
> Subject:
> Re: [M]: Re: LXD500 info
> Date:
> Fri, 5 Sep 1997 00:07:08 -7
> From:
> "Paul Laughton" <meade@laughton.com>
> Reply-To:
> mapug@shore.net
> To:
> mapug@shore.net
>
> <snip>
>
> > SUPERIOR stability? My Celestron SP and GP mounts both shake at the
> > slightest touch and require 1 to 3 seconds to settle down. Unlike my LX200
> > which damps out almost instantaneously.
>
> -Pauls reply
>
> Uh-Oh. I guess I should have said theoritically superior. Anyone can
> screw up a design. Honestly, I have never used a SP/GP.
>
> Subject:
> Re: [M]: Re: LXD500 info
> Date:
> Fri, 5 Sep 1997 00:24:49 -7
> From:
> "Paul Laughton" <meade@laughton.com>
> Reply-To:
> mapug@shore.net
> To:
> mapug@shore.net
>
> <snip>
>
> Would anyone like to start a LDX500 first delivery date pool? First
> delivery date being defined as the day a MAPUGer reports that he took
> delivery from a regular Meade dealer and that he paid for the mount
>
> out his own pocket.
>
> Subject:
> RE: [M]: LX200 Declination System Problems
> Date:
> Fri, 5 Sep 1997 08:14:10 -7
> From:
> "Paul Laughton" <meade@laughton.com>
> Reply-To:
> mapug@shore.net
> To:
> mapug@shore.net
>
> <snip>
>
> The Few frequently make personal attacks upon who people
> post untoward Meade experiences and opinions. I wanted to avoid
> exposing the responders to that kind of boorish behavior. I had also
> assumed that more people would respond if they felt shielded from the
> sting of The Few. The Few have already tried to start their games
> with contumely responses postings to my request.
>
> Subject:
> [M]: Re: [M] [OT]: Bashing problem reporters..
> Date:
> Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:04:54 -7
> From:
> "Paul Laughton" <meade@laughton.com>
> Reply-To:
> mapug@shore.net
> To:
> mapug@shore.net
>
> <snip>
>
> When you seduce a potential customer down a path where they are sure
> to get hurt, you are doing Meade far more harm than good. Meade is a
> big healthy company. They are not in such desparate shape that they
> need customers at any cost. They certainly do not need their existing
> customers being put down because they report a problem. -Paul
>
> ----------
>
> In summary, to new readers or newbie astronomers, I'd recomend not
> relying on Pauls comments in regards to Meade products although in all
> fairness, he is knowledgable as an amateur astromomer. Most all of his
> comments if looked at from the point of view that he is directly or
> indirectly trying to degrade Meade or its designs, his comments then come
> into clear focus. Actually, some of his comments dont even makes sense
> unless you look at them from this point of veiw, where then the intent
> becomes obvious. If we can just get his focus away from Meade bashing and
> direct it to more valuable subject, we may have a real winner out here.
>
> Ralph
>
> ...quest for truth


Paul just wants to drive the stock down so he can buy more ;-)